Got Heat?

We’ve all seen our fair share of superstars have their push suddenly halted, sometimes with good reason, but sometimes we do not always know why. Sometimes it emerges they have said something or done something backstage, or sometimes it can be heat generated from a verbal interview, or simply a Twitter post. We have seen names with talent suddenly dropped like a hot potato all because they did something the office did not like. So is it really worth sometimes opening your mouth and voicing your opinion? It’s time to look at superstars getting heat.


As we all know, Dolph Ziggler recently suffered a concussion which caused him to miss a month of action, only to return and drop the World Heavyweight Championship to Alberto Del Rio. We all assumed Ziggler would get a push and remain in the title picture, however he seems to have been held back. It emerged that Ziggler had heat but no one really knew why until it emerged Ziggler made some comments about Randy Orton which is believed to have drawn heat. Ziggler was merely expressing his opinion on how he was sick of WWE giving Orton so many chances despite the multiple mistakes Orton has made. While we believe Ziggler was merely working in the interview there is an issue between the two in real life that we are unsure of.

What Ziggler says about Randy Orton and his past is pretty spot in in my mind though – How many chances are WWE going to give Orton? It’s clear to me that Orton is a talented young man and deserved at one time to be held in such high regard. But the things he has done in the past on multiple occasions with his attitude and comments make me wonder why WWE want to put themselves in a position to trust a guy who has let them down so many times in the past? This may well be the direction Triple H sees things going in his vision for WWE, but I just feel Orton will only let himself and WWE down again given his track record.

CM Punk

So given that Orton still seems to be a top guy despite the mistakes he has made, does it sometimes depend on who you are as to whether your actions generate heat? Does it in fact sometimes come down to what WWE sees in you? Clearly that is the case with Orton. I think it’s safe to say that if someone like Zack Ryder made the same mistakes Randy Orton has that Ryder would not have a job any more. It’s clear WWE have allowed Orton to return to being a top guy due to Cena taking time off, the need for a top heel on Raw, and the fact that WWE and the fans see the huge potential Randy Orton has.

However, not everyone who speaks out is at the top of the card and it has been proven things can be said without the generation of heat on that star. Take CM Punk – If he wasn’t seen as potentially a top star, would he really have been allowed to say the things he did that night when he dropped the famous ‘pipe bomb’ on stage? At the time WWE could have easily just cut their losses as we all know Punk wasn’t in the main event, rather undeservedly in my opinion, but WWE saw the potential he had and the best thing they ever did was allow him to express himself with a microphone. Ok, they knew what was coming, but they recognised Punk had a point, and none of it generated heat on him, it only increased his stock in WWE, which worked as he ended up as the longest reigning WWE Champion of the modern era.


With Triple H due to take over the running of the company in the future, will we see more wrestlers start to voice their opinion on the product given that Triple H was one of the boys back in the day. I can’t really see why not, but I do anticipate there to be some kind of punishment on people similar to that of what has recently happened to Ziggler. There will always be people who voice their frustration with where the company is heading, I just hope in the future it will be more for the right reasons and workers frustration drives them to push themselves to work harder for their spot and we do not see people being gifted spots in the way Ziggler feels Orton was gifted his.

Clearly it shows that while it sometimes hurts to voice your opinion, it can sometimes come with it’s benefits if done correctly. I think the problems come more when workers voice frustration with other workers, especially those who have received a push and clearly have friends in higher places like Orton. I would like to know your thoughts on workers voicing their opinion and getting heat for it. Do you think it’s the right thing to do by saying what you think? Or do you think that people should keep their opinions away from the spotlight? Do any of you think Orton has had too many chances now? Or do you think WWE made the right call with him this time? As always, I look forward to reading your thoughts and opinions on this.

  • Amaan

    First of all great article Jamie! First off no one should be reprimanded for saying what they think regardless of who it is aganist and how 'higher' up they are. But unfortunately the wrestling industry isn't the same as every other industry and as much as it pains me to say it it depends on where you are in the company hierachy really and it is a matter of who you are and who you are friends with not judged on the quality of in ring work and as a whole round performer. Don't get me wrong Randy Orton is a fantastic talent he is good in the ring, good in the mic and is as over as anyone whether he is heel or babyface. But how many times can this guy get away with unprofessional actions he is the only guy who has passed three wellness policy violations and despite that is the top heel in the business right now and the WWE Champion he has defecated in people's bags I can remember that there was some sort of allegation made aganist him by I think it was Christy Hemme that he harassed her or something along those lines and it was even mentioned on his DVD. But enough is enough when it comes to Ziggler I feel like that he is like that as a person a bit brash, outspoken and arrogant but just like his T-shirt says its not arrogance if you can back it up. It must be even more frustrating that his first World Heavyweight Championship reign was cut short thanks to an ill-timed kick by Jack Swagger causing a concussion and then dropping the championship to Del Rio and then to be placed completely outside the championship picture. Now he is being placed in a program with Dean Ambrose for the United States Championship no disrespect to Ambrose this is a disservice to Ziggler who is well and truly past feuding for the US Championship. How many people has Randy Orton got into trouble he well and truly killed Kofi Kingston's momentum and he has been stuck in the same position for god knows how long now. Orton was instrumental in the firing of Mr Kennedy from WWE, he got Roman Reigns and Seth Rollins into trouble when Rollins didn't even do anything wrong. CM Punk cannot stand him and John Cena is not his biggest fan. I sincerely hope for Ziggler's sake that his career gets back on track because he deserves it more than anyone as for Orton well it seems like he can do anything and WWE will just hand him a top spot regardless and it seems like he is gonna be a top guy in Triple H ran WWE anyways.

    • Jamie Welton

      Thanks Amaan, I'm really glad you enjoyed the article. Sadly the wrestling industry is, like you say, diffrent to that of any other. There is a lot of back stabbing and politics backstage, and when you are out doing promotional things then the last thing you want to do is put your foot in it with an off the cuff comment. Orton has gotten away with a lot fo things, and given his past, it does make me question why WWE trust him in such an important role. Orton is a lucky boy to still have a job and be in the position he is. Ziggler for me was both working and giving his opinion in that interview – If it had been someone like John Cena saying the same this would NOT have happened. Ziggler lost his belt because of Swagger's carelessness, the same guy who we all know decided to get busted for weed during a huge push, and Zggler is frustrated with the direction of WWE. I cant blame him for speaking out. Orton is trouble for me – As you say, he cost Kofi Kingston a big push, and I'm a firm believer Kingston should be in the main event! Ziggler will retain his spot eventually – It would be a damn crime and shame if not

      • Amaan

        I hope so Jamie

  • Chris Owen

    Nice article mate. and well said Amaan! I completely agree on the subject raised. I have a feeling that Ziggler will be ok but once again Orton has had his say and someone is paying the price, I for one thisnk Orton should be paying the price. They push him and yet again he fails. He should of been released by now because I think he has had a lot more drug faliures that have been disclosed. Do I want to see him gone! No but he needs to realise he is not above anyone. Getting to the article I feel that people are allowed to have opinions and I understand if they are voicing them to management and maybe getting into trouble but voicing them to other superstars regardless should not be taken in the same way. Disagreements between Superstars could be sorted in house and not affect a push. Ziggler is a show of and backs it up every time. One of the better on the Rosta. Orton is a great athlete but it seems WWE are worried about taking that next step and promoting younger talent. I am betting Orton will lapse again and he will be protected, how many chances does Orton need and how many chances does Ziggler deserve. Obviously what is best for business is a several failed drug test Orton and not Ziggler. Punk, Orton, Ziggler and Miz should be pissed and able to vent there fustrations. I know Bryan gave HHH some shit recently but had he not been so over with the fans how long before he was challenging for the us championship?

  • Jamie Welton

    Thanks Chris, glad you enjoyed the article too. Orton really is pushing weight around when it's questionable that he should even be where he is – Would he be so highly regarded if he were not a 3rd generation star? I think not. The fact is we know that not everyone backstage gets on with one another – Was Alberto Del Rio punished for saying he doesn't like half the locker room? No. So why should Ziggler be punished any diffrent? Ziggler for me is actually better in the ring than Orton. I would be interested to see what happens to Orton should he get a wellness policy strike again. I think we all know the answer, which is nothing! Bryan is a top talent, I see him in the main event picture for a long time to come, and I have not hear anything with regards to him an Triple H having issues, other than in storyline, and if there were issues I'm sure Bryan is not the type backstage to give anyone grief or vent his frustrations like some other stars do